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Ethan Caughey's avatar

But what if your desires are not what is good for you? What is Good for you?

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Zeke Carsella's avatar

Different conversation! To create rules like this I have to make some assumptions to underpin the point. Your desires can be disordered and thus create issues (for e.x. you desire to party every day/night so you live in a city you cannot afford and your spirit dies even if you are having fun), but if I add that as a variable then the equation cannot work.

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Ethan Caughey's avatar

Ohhhhhhhh, it’s allll the same conversation :)

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Zeke Carsella's avatar

They are related, but we do have to be able to have guardrails in order to make the arguments work! That would be ordo cupiditatum (order of desires). I feel like I’m becoming a latin catholic without even knowing!

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Ethan Caughey's avatar

OK, help me out here. I’m realizing all the ‘ordo’ stuff is Catholic… theology? ecclesiology? Teach me the frame or point me towards the wikipedia article.

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Zeke Carsella's avatar

I just like using latin to explain ideas because it feels better. The only Catholic teaching that includes ordo is ordo amoris (order of love) which got a lot of airplay because of JD Vance. Ordo just means order and so you can attach it (which is what I’m doing) to a bunch of other things that you think should be ordered.

From my understanding, Catholics are big on natural law and the natural ordering of things because everything has their natural order in society.

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Ethan Caughey's avatar

Heard. What is the highest order?

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